Новая система оценки фигурного катания сложна и противоречива. Вот как это работает.

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На зимних Олимпийских играх Pyeongchang 2018 Мирай Нагасу стал первой американской женщиной, которая высадила тройную акцию на олимпийском турнире, только третью женщину, которая когда-либо совершала этот подвиг. Она не смогла выровнять тот же самый прыжок на Чемпионате США по фигурному катанию в 2018 году в Сан-Хосе, но она все же получила 6,07 очков за прыжок, почти на два очка больше, чем идеальный двойной аксель ее товарища по команде, который получил 4,09 балла. Оценка фигурного катания сложна, и новая система подсчета очков изменилась, как конкуренты катаются на коньках. Но как это работает?

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42 Replies to “Как фигурное катание набирает награды за артистизм”

  1. They should increase the standard deviation of BOTH technical score AND artistic score… but of course it may cause even more controversy as there will be more incidences where a highly artistic athlete gets a higher overall score than a highly technical athlete..

  2. Even though the scoring failed Michelle Kwan (so ironic that Tara was interviewed for this video) and Kim Yuna, typically, though, the best skater on that weekend wins.

  3. For me I honestly don't see how a skater attempting a difficult jump or program cleanly for that matter whould be graded higher than another skater that skates a clean program and lands all their jumps. Imo its a little flawed to me.

  4. Well, usually it's the figure skaters who don't have enough guts to complicate their elements who are always complaining about artistry. But anyway, there are skaters who manage to find balance between technical difficulty and artistic performance — Yuzuru Hanyu, Evgenia Medvedeva for example, and those people get their deserved medals. They manage to land these difficult jumps cleanly and evoke emotions with their skating, that is why they are the best under these scoring system. I don't like the old scoring system, it was too subjective, the judges could just lower the marks because they didn't like the skater, and it couldn't be questioned anyhow. Now at least there is some objectivity.

  5. why not just worry about athleticism and not the grace? its so sexist. how many great female skaters have we lost because they worried more about looking pretty than skating a 3A and quads? lets get back ice capades if people care so much about looking artistically

  6. It basically comes down to too many things unrelated to an athlete's PERFORMANCE; legitimate reputation (established expectations of good, bad and mediocre skaters where judges too much determine a skater's scores based on past performances), illegitimate reputation (eg nationality of skater and where skater is competing), the strength of a country's skating association, etc.
    Yuna Kim didn't win gold in 2014 for some of those reasons. Even though her performances were superb and was the reigning World and Olympic champ, she was beaten by a skater who had never even made it to a top five ranking. Why?
    Yuna missed most of that season thus nullifying any "legitimate" reputation points she might have garnered if she had had a full season under her belt when she showed up at the Olympics. Also, because of this she had no ranking and was thus grouped with lesser talents in the earlier groups. She still won the "short skate" but was woefully underscored nevertheless. Then there is her historical rival, Mao Asada (also highly regarded) who found herself skating with lesser talents in the free skate due to a poor performance in the "short". Her free skate was superb however and many believed it was the best of the competition and yet she was scored with the kind of marks others in her less talented group were used to. Then of course there is the fact that a Russian in Russia won the gold with a performance that while podium worthy was not of gold standard. This last part is what I refer to as "illegitimate reputation". Along with the Canadians, Americans and Japanese the Russian skating association is very strong. Yuna on the other hand was represented by not only a weak skating association but an association that is much, much more concerned and "involved" with speed skating of which they are a true world power. It is a testament to just how good Yuna is (or was) that she never finished off ANY podium EVER. Make no mistake about it; If she was skating for America that gold would have been hers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyV8hN8atk

  7. Honestly there’s no incentive to learn the 3A right now. I mean look at Mao Asada (Love her btw) She performed three clean 3As, Yuna Kim performed 0. Guess which skater won by 23 points. Mirai performed a clean 3A in Peyongchang during the Team event. Alina Zagitova skated afterwards with no 3As and STILL out scored Mirai by almost 21 points. It’s just not worth the risk right now.

  8. My sister is aiming to become an Olympic Figure skater. But the judges scoring isn't always fair. She already said that she's going to be practicing doing some of the hardest jumps. And 1, if she somehow ends up landing those stunts she might not even win a competition due to what the judges are really looking for and 2 if she doesn't land the stunts then even though she might win she also might end up with a real bad injury.

  9. Nathan Chen who landed a 5, or 7 quadrules jumps & NOT won EVEN BRONZE at worlds & OG!!!!!!?????WTF!!!!?????!!!! I mean it’s RIDICULOUS!!!!! And this on scoring sistem ,wich more appreciate exactly the jumps!!!!!

  10. I have an idea… Why the jury doesnt just make a list out of stunt (jumps), and the athletes just have to check list all the jump in their choreography. If you add something, no score will be added. But if they couldn't check one of the jump or stunt their point got deducted. How bout that? Seems kinda not fair to judge apple with orange (different routine from each skater)

  11. Personally, I think that a slight preference for taking risks is good for an art form (the Oscars have a lot of problems from using a system that discourages risk), but it sounds like this is edging into making ambition more valuable than ability to follow through on that ambition.
    Personally, my thought is that negative execution modifiers should be scaled to the value of the element, so that they would only be worthwhile if you pull them off flawlessly.

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